Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available! https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/t180521 Runboard| Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available! en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:01:05 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:01:05 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609971,from=rss#post1609971https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609971,from=rss#post1609971Glad to know the "news" of the election results has basically calmed down (was worried there would be non-stop coverage for the next 3 months at the very least). But do wonder what international news has been ignored / under reported in the meanwhile.... Just barely caught the story about the French being killed in the Ivory Coast along with inhumane treatments again in Sudan....nondisclosed_email@example.com (L L)Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:28:10 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609970,from=rss#post1609970https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609970,from=rss#post1609970Yes apparently, and bombing women and children. Evidently God doesn't mind us doing that since we are His (or is it Her) favorites.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Steve A)Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:06:31 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609969,from=rss#post1609969https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609969,from=rss#post1609969 :JIMK: Is lying moral?nondisclosed_email@example.com (drwaldo)Sat, 06 Nov 2004 16:31:09 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609968,from=rss#post1609968https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609968,from=rss#post1609968Base Christianity Amy Sullivan November 04, 2004      From The Washington Monthly SLOW DOWN THERE... This, with apologies to Andrew, is hooey. "What we're seeing," writes Andrew Sullivan, "is a huge fundamentalist Christian revival in this country, a religious movement that is now explicitly political as well." Hate to point this out (no, actually, I don't--I've been saying this for a while now), but the "huge fundamentalist Christian revival" took place about thirty years ago, not last month, and it has always been explictly political. If I may condense a few decades of history into one sentence, the perfect storm that led to what we now call the Christian Right was this combination: Angry reaction by conservative evangelicals to court rulings on school prayer, Bible-reading in public schools, and abortion motivating them to enter the political realm for the first time plus Outrage among Catholics, who had previously kept kind of quiet while focusing on assimilating amid anti-Catholicism, after Roe v. Wade, mobilizing them into a politically active force plus The realization by Republican strategists that they need to form a cohesive electoral block and that their best bet for winning the South was partnering with white church leaders, since those institutions were the last acceptable bastion of racism equals Rock-solid coalition of Christian Right and Republican Party. And as a result, for a good twenty years now, people have assumed that if you're religious, you're a Republican and that if you're a Democrat, you can't possibly be religious. We know that isn't true. What's more, John Kerry's campaign (particularly in the last stretch of October) made great strides toward knocking down that mistaken belief. But unfortunately, it's going to take more time until perceptions match reality. I gotta say, it doesn't help much when exit polls and sloppy reporting use terms like "moral values" and "moral issues" as shorthand for very narrow, divisive issues like abortion and gay marriage, feeding into twenty years of Republican rhetoric. Opposition to the war in Iraq is a moral issue. The alleviation of poverty is a moral issue. Concern about abortion is a moral value, yes, but you can stay at the level of empty rhetoric about a "culture of life" or you can talk about how to actually reduce abortion rates, which is what most people care about more. (Did you hear once during this election season that abortion rates have risen under W. after they fell dramatically during Clinton's eight years in office?) "Religious" does not mean Republican. And "moral" does not mean conservative. There's going to be a lot of discussion about all of this over the coming weeks and months, and it's incredibly important to make sure we're neither sloppy about our terms nor overly broad in how we characterize "the faithful."   nondisclosed_email@example.com (Steve A)Sat, 06 Nov 2004 16:06:19 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609967,from=rss#post1609967https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609967,from=rss#post1609967 :JIMK: As long as it's not dangerous.nondisclosed_email@example.com (drwaldo)Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:45:00 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609966,from=rss#post1609966https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609966,from=rss#post1609966but he was available, he would have gone if need be, and he would have led, because he's a leader and leaders lead.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Steve A)Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:43:10 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609965,from=rss#post1609965https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609965,from=rss#post1609965  That was a panty raid into Tuscaloosa not a bombing raid into Cambodia.nondisclosed_email@example.com (drwaldo)Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:34:29 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609964,from=rss#post1609964https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609964,from=rss#post1609964Bill Clinton the draft dodger and George W Bush the pilot leading bombing raids into Cambodia, oh wait...I'm confused...nondisclosed_email@example.com (Steve A)Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:27:30 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609963,from=rss#post1609963https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609963,from=rss#post1609963 :JIMK: I guess not.nondisclosed_email@example.com (drwaldo)Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:23:04 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609962,from=rss#post1609962https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609962,from=rss#post1609962Maybe the explanation is some folks were (are) fans of the music but not necessarily fans of the philosophies and beliefs of the group. However to me the "philosophy" is in the music. Maybe some of our pals will enlighten us.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Steve A)Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:51:58 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609961,from=rss#post1609961https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609961,from=rss#post1609961 :JIMK: I do find it interesting that so many fans of the Beatles,one of the most liberal groups ever,are arch conservatives.nondisclosed_email@example.com (drwaldo)Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:32:51 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609960,from=rss#post1609960https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609960,from=rss#post1609960John Lennon, if "here today", would probably be in the above group.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Steve A)Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:26:00 +0000 Re: Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609959,from=rss#post1609959https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609959,from=rss#post1609959 :JIMK: Kerry is against gay marriage.nondisclosed_email@example.com (drwaldo)Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:02:57 +0000 Your plane tickets to leave the Country are available!https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609958,from=rss#post1609958https://bthemoondogs.runboard.com/p1609958,from=rss#post1609958 At the Michael Moore consession desk!  Step forward Michael Moore Barbara Streisand Ted Danson Alec Baldwin Hanoi Jane Fonda Draft Dodging Bill Clinton Ed Asner Jeaneane Garafalo Don Henley Tim Robbins Susan sarandon  and the rest...  Hard to believe that nearly 50% of Americans voted for the Party that believes in gay Marriage and abortion! Maybe the decent moral ones ignorred the bad side just like the Republicans did and voted on other issues!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Big Johnson)Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:54:37 +0000